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Discussion in 'Forum Announcements' started by Converse, Nov 17, 2014.

  1. Converse Active Member

    Converse

    I would like to remind everyone that this is a Web Directory Forum. As such, I do include several topic areas that are peripheral to web directories, and it is perfectly okay to post in these areas, as well as the off-topic area of the forum.

    However, I would very much like to see more discussion in the web directory areas of the forum, as I don't want to generalize the forum so much that no one can figure out what it's about.

    You don't know anything about web directories? Well, I have a couple of sites about just that -- Web Directory Reviews Org and WDR Directory of Directories, and I have another one coming online very soon, which I will announce at the time, although I can see that Google has already indexed what there is of it.

    SEO and webmaster forums are filled with self-proclaimed SEO gurus who like to repeat the refrain that web directories are dead, or that Google doesn't like web directories. If that is your belief, I am perfectly willing to debate that with you as well, but only if you can do better than repeating statements without an argument to back it up.

    Web directories aren't hard to find, although good ones are a little bit harder. Give us a review of a web directory, based on whatever criteria you'd like to use.

    If there is anything that you don't understand about web directories, as long as you can show that you have given it some thought before asking the question, ask away.

    So, by all means, continue to post in any of the topics that we have here, but please try to participate in the web directory part of the forum, too. This is a web directory forum, after all.

     
  2. toradrake Member

    toradrake

    Thank you for the insight, I for one will be the first to admit.... I know very little about Directories. I've used them in the past but never really delved deep into understanding them. I have been reading through post made in the Directories to try and learn from others on them, but you are right in saying there are not that many topics being brought up about them. I will try to post what I can on them from articles I find about them to see if I can prompt so more discussions in this area, but as I said... my personal knowledge is limited.

     
  3. fastreplies Original Member

    fastreplies

    Original

    Then what are you doing posting in Directories Industry forum?

    You mean spamming or better yet trolling others to spend their time on answering questions made by
    some dickheads you have picked up from articles written by the same people who have as much idea
    about Industry as you do?

    Just curious.

    :confused:

    fastreplies

     
  4. fastreplies Original Member

    fastreplies

    Original

    You mean "continue to spam"?

    In what capacity? As Trolls?
    Surely you can't expect strangers to the Industry effectively to contribute to very specific niche
    even people who are in it still have problems to navigate around it.

    Well, looking at direction it's taking now, the question is: for how long?

    :rolleyes:

    fastreplies

     
  5. Converse Active Member

    Converse

    That's neither spamming or trolling. Rather, it's an opportunity to introduce people to web directories. Far too many people have come up over the past few years, accepting as true things that they know nothing about, just because people keep repeating them in forums. Rather than getting upset with someone who doesn't know anything about web directories, we might try introducing them to the industry.

    Yes, I'd rather have more people on here who are involved in the web directory industry and able to discuss things beyond the introductory level, but we've got to work with what we have.

    I came to the Internet around the time that public access became available; even before then, as it was part of the college system. At that time, when you connected to the Internet, you were confronted with a C:/ prompt, and had to figure your way around from there.

    But before that, I started a computer BBS in the 1984, when several BBS's were already in place. Being new to BBS systems, I would ask questions in the forums that sometimes led to responses like, "Why are you trying to run a BBS when you don't even know..." and, of course, that wasn't particularly helpful. I stuck with it and, when I shut it down in the mid 1990s, my board had been the hub for South Texas for a few years.

    Someone isn't necessarily a troll just because they don't know about web directories. I'd rather have them asking about web directories in a web directory forum than discussing a lot of other things, although we have room for that as well.

    The trolls are the sort you'll find on Digital Point, who will simply make statements with no facts to back them up, yet putting them out there as if it were authoritative, then when you call them on it, they either repeat themselves or follow it up with another statement that the pulled off of someone's tweet.

    As long as someone is willing to discuss the issue, it's welcome.

     
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  6. toradrake Member

    toradrake


    Everyone has to start somewhere to begin learning. Posts like this one are counter productive in that achievement because some (unlike me) can feel intimidated by those who do know the field being "snotty" towards them (and to be blunt your post are very arrogant, condescending, sarcastic, and combative in their delivery) and thus choose to seek out their information elsewhere. Unfortunately those areas, 90% of the time, turn out to be the wrong places. Rather then posting in a negative sense, which can push them away from the forum, we should all remember that even WE have started with no knowledge and had to gain this knowledge from some place or someone and should welcome those who are here to learn the information correctly and help educate them.

    The bottom line is, forums are designed to educate and inform as well as for discussions. If you have no desire to educate, then don't reply to questions people have or post of information they may have discovered whether it is right or wrong. If you have information to relay, please do relay that information for others to read, in a positive manner of course, so that those of us who have limited or no knowledge of an area can have a better understanding of that area. And from what I have seen so far the other members seem enjoy answering and educating those who do not fully understand about the topic discussed, including the administrator of the site, so it appears that you are alone in your feelings. What is allowed or not allowed is at the discretion of the owner and only the owner.

    I am not saying you do not have the right to express your feelings on things, only that you should work on the delivery of those feelings. Like for instance your response to this discussion could have been delivered in a much more productive and non-combative manner if you had offered your knowledge rather than condescension. For instance

    That post is a perfect example of what I am saying about being nonconstructive. It is very inappropriate in its delivery as I was in no way suggesting that I would post inaccurate information nor have I delivered any information that would constitute as spamming or trolling. I have presented information for others who CHOOSE to, to discuss. Whether it is to dispute the information and inform of the correction information or to contemplate over to determine it validity. Plus it would have been more acceptable and appreciated if you were to offer your guidance and assistance rather then you condemnation.

    I am here because I want to learn and understand directories better and relay techniques I have acquired in the field as a designer, marketer, and SEO specialist for a major design company in the past. These fields are ever changing and so as much as I know...much has changed so I am also here to learn of these changes as well.

     
  7. Converse Active Member

    Converse

    Please, feel free to use any of the articles published in the Web Directory Digest as topic starters. I had considered posting each article in a thread of its own, for that reason, but not everyone is going to want to discuss each of them, so that would have the potential of creating a lot of dead threads. However, when you're struggling to think of something to say that is related to web directories or, also significantly, if you have questions about web directories, consider the Digest. Every article is announced in this thread, so if you want to discuss any of them, just link to it from an appropriate topic area, and have at it.

    As I have indicated before, I'm looking for discussion, not agreement, so don't feel like you have to agree with something just because I published it. A new article is published about every four or five days.

     
  8. toradrake Member

    toradrake

    LOL @Converse, a little behind there. I wrote this post back in November. Its cool though and I intend to use the Web Directory Digest as much as possible. I have read some of the articles in there already, I just haven't formulated my thoughts on them as of yet. Soon you will see more threads from me on those articles. Hope your feeling better!

     
  9. hiepelines New Member

    hiepelines

    i thought web submission isn't effect now ? this type get many bad backlinks right ?

     
  10. Converse Active Member

    Converse

    Bad web directories give bad back-links, but good web directories yield good back-links, which isn't considerably different than any other kind of website.

     
  11. toradrake Member

    toradrake

    @hiepelines the best thing to do to stay on the safe side of the tracks, in my opinion, look up a listing of the top web directories on the net and submit to the first 5 to 10 on the list. It does not hurt to submit as long as you submit to the right ones, so go ahead and submit.

     

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